What Little I Know About Marketing
06/18/2011
I didn’t go to school for marketing. I don’t have 20 years of experience in marketing. In fact, marketing has never been officially a part of any job I’ve had. However, I have created stuff that has required marketing and now I have some opinions on it.
Instead of being vague, let’s get specific. A guy named Jared Polivka emailed me about a new WordPress theme he and a friend (recent college graduates) created called Victory Framework. It’s a “political” theme, so aimed at web designers who are creating sites for political candidates. It’s a paid/premium theme which costs $75.
The challenge Jared faces is: how do I market this theme? The goal being, if marketed well, web designers building political websites will be aware of this, some portion of them will buy it, he’ll make money. Sweet.
Jeff Starr and I were in a similar position when we wrote our book on WordPress, Digging Into WordPress. We made the thing, now if only we could get people to know about it, some portion of them will buy it, we’ll make money. Sweet.
Jeff and I had one significant advantage though, we both had sites that already had fairly large audiences of people who on some level were “fans” of our work and were likely to be interested in the topic of our book. The day we released the book, we sold a bunch of copies. That is the “Thank You Economy” at work. Whatever you think about Gary V, I think he’s dead right about this one.
As far as I can tell, Jared doesn’t have the existing audience Jeff and I did. He has 43 followers on Twitter and no personal website that I can find. That’s OK. These things can come. Perhaps the Victory Framework will help grow Jared’s fans and his next product will have that luxury. I’d recommend working on either a personal site or a company site though. In the footer of the Victory Framework website it says “Created by Warnock and Polivka.” If that linked away to another website that was different yet beautifully designed, my level of trust for this theme would skyrocket. It would serve as proof these guys do good work in everything they do.
So now were do we turn for marketing? Another form is word of mouth. Make a product that is so good that people can’t help but share it with others. Design a website so beautiful that all the galleries pick it up. Designers share it amongst their peers. I work for Wufoo, which has now been around six years and is safe to say that Wufoo’s massive growth can be attributed to impassioned word of mouth by users. I feel like the Victory Framework isn’t quite there. It’s a pretty decent looking theme, but it doesn’t quite have that spark, that touch of a really great designer. I can’t see the theme nor the sales homepage getting much attention just by virtue of design.
Another place we could turn is paid marketing. Jared said he used $100 on Google AdWords to try and get a bit of traffic. I think that’s an idea worth exploring. I’ve seen campaigns on AdWords go both ways: total flops, and rather stunning successes. If a way can be figured out that you spend $100 on AdWords and sell $200 worth of themes, that should be cranked up as high as it can go. I have some doubts though. I feel like if you were selling kitchen countertops you’d have better success, but WordPress themes sell to web-saavy people, the kind of people that don’t click on Google Ads. Another approach would be to try and buy some targetted display advertising from BuySellAds.
SEO marketing is another avenue that should be thought about. I think doing whatever you can to make sure you are #1 for “political wordpress theme” (and similar stuff) would go a long way in getting your product in front of the people who want it. SEO is tough though. I’ve never been any good at it, just not something I have any passion for. But it’s doable.
Jared himself had an idea:
I think the best strategy would be to contact bloggers so they can review the theme and link to us online.
Yeah… I mean he wrote to me and I’m writing about it. It certainly can’t hurt. But it might not be terribly effective either. I get emails from marketers pretty frequently wanting me to blog about something or another and it’s generally a serious turnoff. If you want it to work, you need to give something to the blogger and give something to the blogger’s readers. Give away the theme to the blogger for free, and give them a discount code for their readers. That’s damn cliche though, you can do better than that. Don’t offer to write a post either, that’s also kind of a turnoff. I keep getting these email from people who want to make an unique infographic for me to post, as long as I put some stupid keyword link in the post. No quicker way to lose credibility and trust as a blogger.
After all that, here’s where we ended up. Jared, keep on keeping on. Look into SEO for Victory Framework. Email some people but be real about it. After you’ve made some sales, sink some of that into AdWords and see if you strike a vein. Maybe buy a few ads on BuySellAds and see how they do. Make another theme. See how that one goes. I bet it’s better. Get your personal site going. Build a portfolio. Engage with folks on Twitter and Facebook so when your next theme comes out, more people will care about it out of the gate. You’ll kick ass, I guarantee it.
ThemeForest.com would be a good way for him to build a following and perhaps get a better idea of how to price his themes against other premium themes.
I’d agree with that too. Probably. Maybe.
He’s already got the whole site built. The whole “activation key” thing going. Definitely lends a more professional air to things.
ThemeForest he’d make what, $10? Here he makes $75. So he’s have to sell 8 times as many themes to make the same amount of money. He might just do that or more, since ThemeForest is so big.
Tough call. Both?
Yeah… these kinds of things are why I gave up on selling wordpress themes before I’d even started.
Great evocation of the TYE book.
Doesn’t hurt having someone with your rep throwing his name and product around! Make sure you get a commission!
Just to add to your thoughts, they could create a “company” site and then hand out a free theme or two with links back to their company site for SEO purposes. I understand you would still need people to find the freebies, but they are more likely to take them and use them if they have no related costs.
I think these guys need a lot more than only marketing!
The landing page for the theme is not very impressive I think. You expect a link where it says “Try it for free”, but there is no link and right under it is the buy button.
Providing feedback via the demo theme is a mailto-link, which doesn’t come across as very professional.
Maybe it is a great theme/framework, but that is very difficult to establish from the landing page or the demo site.
On top of that I get very easily turned off by spelling mistakes in a demo theme (Afganistahn???)
Designers & developers are sure to reach the greater WordPress community and gain exposure by showcasing their themes on a well known marketplace such as themeforest. However, higher percentage profits are only made by selling through them exclusively. Whether taking this approach or selling directly from one’s own website, the product should be exceptional/beautiful and strive to highlight its value and strength to the target audience.
I’d be more concerned with the question: What does my product offer that others do not? The Victory Framework website leaves much to be desired. The information and theme details on the landing page should elaborate on all of the options and features and highlight why it is a strong campaign website. A full specification list and a narrated screencast showing how the demo site was built and how easy it is to customize would also go a long way. The demo site itself would be much better with a complete set of fictitious content for the candidate and all aspects of a real campaign.
Know the competition, learn from them, and offer a better product!
There are many political based WordPress themes available; and for those looking for a framework, what about the Victory Framework can someone not achieve with:
StudioPress Genesis child themes > http://winwithwp.com/
iThemes Builder w/ the Americana child theme > http://demos.ithemes.com/americana/ | http://ithemes.com/purchase/builder-theme/
PageLines PLatform Pro or WhiteHouse > http://www.pagelines.com/demos/whitehousepro/ | http://www.pagelines.com/themes/platformpro/
It’s a good looking that’s for sure, it doesn’t have that WOW factor yet, but it will come as they gain more experience.
Probably the best way of gaining quick marketing is getting blogs to give handouts on Twitter / the blog. It might be a hit, it might not, but all things free gets people going.
Just make sure you got a really great landing page for the blogs to send them to. To drive in the sales from the people who didn’t win.
And also get your SEO strategy up and running before you start the campaign, so you can drive-in keywords during.
And last but not least, Chris, I think its great that you take time to help out those new to the business. Spending alot of time myself reading blogs to pick up tricks. You definatly drove in some traffic for Jared.
Chris, thank you for answering my questions on your blog. It means a lot that you took time out of your schedule to provide feedback and advice.
I also thank the members of the WordPress and design/dev community for chiming in with advice and critical analysis. Your comments on our product, our marketing and our personal branding are tremendously helpful.
Altogether you have provided us with great feedback and a direction. We have a lot of work to do… we need to elaborate upon our features and points of differentiation, listen to our users and keep improving our product, improve our landing page for better conversions, work on our personal branding and work on our overall marketing efforts.
We are going to dive in and we will keep you posted on our progress. Thanks again.
Great article. As an internet marketer myself, I enjoyed this journey into grass roots web marketing. One thing I think that was overlooked in this discussion is the idea of demand. Since I’m not a designer, maybe I don’t know how much work is done for political candidates, however, I can’t imagine it’s a ton. And of those sites that are created, how many designers/agencies want to pay for a theme when instead they can charge literally thousands more in billable time to create their own theme/design?
My point is that this is a very niche product without a ton of demand. It may not be worth a ton of investment in both time and money in marketing with such a limited population of potential customers. I would think your time would be better spent creating a family of themes/products then marketing those as a brand.
Jesse, thanks for taking the time to post a comment. I work alongside Jared in developing Victory and we both love feedback (both positive and negative). So keep it coming!
Regarding your comment, I completely agree that no product should be made without demand, life’s too short to waste time. We are both huge fans of the customer development model, in which you develop customers before you develop a product.
That said, we did about 4 months of customer development for Victory and didn’t build a product until we had a customer base trying to rip our presented solution from our hands. Our target market is designers and developers of political websites. The problem we’ve solved: (just flipping your quote here) how many designers/agencies want to create an expensive, custom theme when instead they can charge literally thousands while quickly developing the website using a framework that cost $100? The designers focus just on extending the framework to accomodate the custom specs of their client, as opposed to spending hundreds of hours building the base functionality of a political campaign site (social media, donation, sliders, action buttons, news, events etc). The result: the profitability goes way up.
So what does the market say of the problem we’re trying to solve? Well, the launch was a tremendous success. Our target market early adopters tell us that they love the product (despite it’s current beta quirks) and we’ve actually halted marketing efforts to slow growth until we smooth over a few install bugs. We have traction and some early market fit.
So while I agree Victory is a niche product, it’s fitting a niche in the market that was desperate for a solution. We’ll keep you updated on its progress and really appreciate your comment, Jesse (and a big thanks to Chris for making this conversation possible).
Don’t ever forget about good old fashion networking. Meeting new people in your field and exchanging ideas. Like you mentioned, “word of mouth” if people know who you are and know you do good work they will let people they know and you begin to build a large fan base. Great Suggestions Chris.
Thanks for the comment, Raymond. I agree. Right now, we’re almost fully focused on improving the product and providing excellent support for our initial customers. We’d rather generate positive word-of-mouth with an outstanding product rather than throw money on advertising a mediocre one.